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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Jan 17, 2013 7:58:20 GMT -5
IMHO Carlüs Xheraltsefiglheu got it right in the respective debates in the Hopper: If swearing an oath can't be abolished altoghether, make it a lean oath. No oath to Kings or their government. Only a very unspecific oath to Talossa, if any.
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Post by Vitxalmour Conductour on Jan 17, 2013 13:43:05 GMT -5
I like Glüc's draft. It is very general in what it requests and leaves the specific wording up to the individual. That I like very much. I abhor mechanical recitation. This would allow every new citizen to make an individual statement, something meaningful.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Jan 17, 2013 15:12:58 GMT -5
Yes, it looks much better than the other approach.
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Post by Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on Jan 17, 2013 16:53:29 GMT -5
The personal oath seems... Peculiar in some way. Delightfully so.
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Post by andy on Jan 17, 2013 21:36:16 GMT -5
Here's the thing about an oath: it's magical thinking. Take some words, sprinkle them with fairy dust, and they suddenly are endowed with eldritch powers. The Quakers had it right, although for silly reasons.
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Post by suorsch on Jan 18, 2013 8:38:30 GMT -5
Here's the thing about an oath: it's magical thinking. Take some words, sprinkle them with fairy dust, and they suddenly are endowed with eldritch powers. The Quakers had it right, although for silly reasons. yes, oaths are old fashion, you conduct magical rite of swearing, better part in talossa is you need not to cut your hand to spill three drops of blood to seal it. also, for me, eastern european, oaths are either evil (bolshevik regime loved oaths) or funny (sorry fellow americans, but whenever i saw the american oath said by kids in a school and suchs, it makes laugh). |
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Post by andy on Jan 18, 2013 19:49:40 GMT -5
... oaths are either evil (bolshevik regime loved oaths) or funny (sorry fellow americans, but whenever i saw the american oath said by kids in a school and suchs, it makes laugh). The Pledge was an incantation to keep the Communists away. See? It worked! |
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Post by Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on Jan 18, 2013 23:46:01 GMT -5
The pledge of allegiance was written by Francis Bellamy, a socialist. Also, his original salute looked a goodly deal like the Sieg Heil.
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