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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Dec 27, 2012 5:36:42 GMT -5
I received this message today:
"To: E∂o Grischün of the Common-Sense Progressives; Glüc da Dhi of the Moderate Radicals; D. N. Vercáriâ of the New Peculiarist Way
I would like to invite all of you, as leading members of other opposition-ish parties in Talossa, to address the ZRT convention to be held in Benito province between 3-13 January. If we want a new government in Talossa in 2013, the non-RUMP, centrist/leftist/liberal parties have to start a process of comradely discussion and friendship.
Please feel free to extend this invitation to other members of your parties if you don't want to or can't accept this invitation itself.
sincerely, miestrâ for the ZRT leadership"
This may bring up the question, if we should become engaged in an anti-RUMP alliance. I for one would think, that we shall be open for all possible coalitions that help us to promote the Peculiarist agenda, especially when it comes to constitutional amendmends. Which means, IMHO we should not rule out any possible cooperation with the RUMP, even if we'd like to see some change in the elected leadership of Talossa.
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Post by Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on Dec 27, 2012 10:08:27 GMT -5
Well, the question is will a single speaking engagement gets us into an "alliance." I mean, you could give a highly complimentary speech about Republicanism and it's capacity for great Peculiarity. I was talking to Carlus and Miestra recently, and they mentioned that they were planning on inviting various party leaders to address the ZRT convention. There didn't seem to be thoughts of alliance at that time, but I dunno.
In my opinion, a single speaking engagement, particularly if you wear your hat and give a good speech, on topics germain to Peculiarism, could help raise the party profile. I don't want to get entangled into some sort of pure "Anti-RUMP" movement at the expense of our agenda, and I think this might be safe.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Dec 27, 2012 13:51:46 GMT -5
Nah, joining the fun of the ZRT convention will not make us a part of an alliance.
I just remembered the recent general election, where Miestrâ quickly made all oppositional party leaders sign a writ in which they swore to support some certain ideas. Not bad ideas, not wrong ideas, but said party leaders suddenly looked like dancing bears who were pulled across an arena with rings in their noses.
This must not happen to us. As a strong peculiar party, we should not prematurely sign writs or swear allegiance to alliances, howsoever much we are sharing some basic principles - just in the name of our good looks as independently thinking individuals in a party of independent individuals.
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Post by Glüc on Dec 27, 2012 15:20:50 GMT -5
Nah, joining the fun of the ZRT convention will not make us a part of an alliance. I just remembered the recent general election, where Miestrâ quickly made all oppositional party leaders sign a writ in which they swore to support some certain ideas. Not bad ideas, not wrong ideas, but said party leaders suddenly looked like dancing bears who were pulled across an arena with rings in their noses. This must not happen to us. As a strong peculiar party, we should not prematurely sign writs or swear allegiance to alliances, howsoever much we are sharing some basic principles - just in the name of our good looks as independently thinking individuals in a party of independent individuals. Actually most of the actual 4 party plan was written by the CSPP. The MRPT wouldnt have supported it if we didnt agree to the listed points already. The CSPP has drifted away afterwards, but I still support it. The idea to make provinces responsible for senatorial elections was one of the better idea of recent years. It wasnt an alliance either. We never ruled out a coalition with the RUMP, and I think the ZRT wasnt very happy about that. I think parties working together to support certain ideas is not a bad thing.
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Post by andy on Dec 27, 2012 22:13:45 GMT -5
Support from other parties can take form in their (and our) votes for the ideas that are agreeable. No need for superfluous agreements or alliances. I don't much like, nor see the need for, lumping ourselves in with another party on particular issues.
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Post by Vitxalmour Conductour on Dec 27, 2012 23:18:53 GMT -5
I (barring the rise of some objectively evil party) would never like to see the NPW become an anti-some-party-party (and even then, to make that the focus would be bad). I would also never like to see the NPW become the sidekick or lackey of some other party.
That said, I see no problem with fraternizing with the competition. They are and will be our colleagues, developing a working relationship now ensures an atmosphere more conducive to cooperation in the future.
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